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		<title>MSNBC tries to rip a casanova to shreds, and&#8230; fails!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MSNBC's Today Show tries to rip on the most notorious natural as of late: Mr. Paul Janka, But the responses are overwhelmingly showing them:  "Hey, its no longer 1952 people"]]></description>
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<p>An interesting video where the today shows interviews one of the most notorious naturals as of late: Mr. Paul Janka. </p>
<p>Notice the attitude and distortions presented. The guy does pretty well. He says a in a very intelligent manner that he does not lead women on. He doesn&#8217;t go around promising women marriages and then dumping them. He simply has sex with any attractive woman who will take him.</p>
<p>The show host, of course tries to rip on him for &#8220;preying on unsuspecting women&#8221;</p>
<p>The explanation she and the &#8220;expert&#8221; give on this is that &#8212;some women have had issues as children, so they get heartbroken when a man they fuck won&#8217;t marry them&#8212; And that somehow makes it man&#8217;s responsibility?</p>
<p>If I tell you that I want to only have sex with you&#8230; and you say that&#8217;s all you want too (but you&#8217;re secretly trying to get me to marry you)&#8230; <strong><u>I</u></strong> am the bad one?</p>
<p>-&gt; I am the honest one.</p>
<p>-&gt; You&#8217;re chick with childhood issues who&#8217;s lying to me in order to get me to marry you&#8230;</p>
<p>And I am the bad one?</p>
<p>Woooooah. This is getting super-scary. Did everyone&#8217;s IQ just plummet to record lows?</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
<p>Since when does that logic make sense?</p>
<p>What do they propose instead? That he marries the first woman who sleeps with him even though they&#8217;re not a personality-match? I don&#8217;t get it?</p>
<p><strong>His method:</strong> I am searching for the right one. While I am searching, I have fun (mutual honest and upfront fun).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a matter of statistics really. How likely is that the first person you meet be your perfect soul-mate? Not very likely. The more people you meet, the more likely you are to find your match. And one of the ways of getting to know people is through sex. How are going to know if a person is right unless you have sex with them?<br />
Who are these people to tell me that I should marry the first girl who expresses interest in me, so that a few fucked up women don&#8217;t get the wrong signal? Whatever happened to taking responsibility? What&#8217;s up with this victim-lead society?</p>
<p>He takes his part of the responsiblity. He&#8217;s up front and tells people what he wants&#8230; But now&#8230; he&#8217;s supposed to also take responsibility for her? Because she&#8217;s not sure what she wants.</p>
<p>What happened to the women&#8217;s movement, weren&#8217;t they supposed to empower and liberate women and move them away from having to depend on men&#8217;s decisions. How come we&#8217;re back to men having to mind women&#8217;s decisions for them?</p>
<p>There Were some really intelligent comments on the MSNBC site though:<br />
http://allday.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/10/507637.aspx</p>
<blockquote><p>I thought Paul was very articulate, well spoken, non confrontational, intelligent and honest.  Hard to find those qualities in a man.  Mereidth and the Dr. interviewing him appeared inadequate compared to his candid and honest response. -> Annette, Denver, CO</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p> Please know that all women, single or otherwise, are not &#8220;putty&#8221; in men&#8217;s hands.  Paul has every right to be a Casanova, scoundrel, playboy, etc.  It is every woman’s responsibility to stay on top of her personal relationships and to stay in &#8220;check&#8221;. If Paul purposely pursues vulnerable women, that is a different situation, but from his interview, I didn&#8217;t take him to do that.  I am not sure he would even give two thoughts to the woman&#8217;s state of mind. -> Kimberly, Columbus, Ohio</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I do not think Paul has an addiction, and I thought Natalie and the Dr. were condescending and rude.  If the man does not want to get married why must we say there is something wrong with him.  Monogamy, marriage and family is not for everyone.  As a women I do not want any of those things.  I get much support from both men and women for this. However, when a man is like this he is a sex addict.  What a closed minded view in this day and age. -> Sunshine Pollard</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I do not think Paul has an addiction, and I thought Natalie and the Dr. were condescending and rude.  If the man does not want to get married why must we say there is something wrong with him.  Monogamy, marriage and family is not for everyone.  As a women I do not want any of those things.  I get much support from both men and women for this. However, when a man is like this he is a sex addict.  What a closed minded view in this day and age. -> Sunshine Pollard</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p> Oh, grow up!!  It is not a wonder why women are attracted to this man.  Look at him.  Listen to him speak.  He&#8217;s great looking, interesting job, intelligent, confident.  Why should all men be out shopping for a bride??  This is not 1950.  I would have thought that your intereviewers would be slightly more enlightened than to blame his &#8220;serial dating&#8221; on having divorced parents. Come on! It seems that he is honest with himself and with the women he dates, (and hopefully practicing some very SAFE sex!) so maybe his answers just aren&#8217;t what some women want to hear.  Doesn&#8217;t seem like the villain you may try to make him out to be. -> Bridget, Lagrangeville, NY</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Feminists say: Daygame should be illegal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alek Novy</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The feminists are here, ready and willing to stop all of the men in the world from ever meeting another woman. The wussification and repression of the man, almost complete.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Washington Post ran an article by a <strong>FemiNazi </strong>on her repulsion with men giving her &#8220;unwanted attention&#8221;. Now, I understand the fact no one likes un-wanted attention, in fact, it feels oddly repulsive. Just imagine an obese feminazi rubbing up against you and whispering in your ears &#8220;take me big boy, i&#8217;m all yours&#8221;&#8230;. Ewwww, right?</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t like however is the Crime the feminazi want to turn it into. Especially with hypocrisy they run it by.</p>
<p>Apparently women are &#8220;disgusted&#8221; and &#8220;grossed out&#8221;, by men calling out to them on the street.</p>
<p>What are they calling out? Are these men saying stuff like &#8220;you ugly c**t?&#8221; to random women? No, not even close, they&#8217;re actually saying such atrocities as &#8220;wow, you look beautiful&#8221; and &#8220;Hey there sexy&#8221; or &#8220;Good morning&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh, but they must like be groping them and following them, right?</p>
<p>No, none of that. Just commenting about their appearance or trying to start a conversation.</p>
<p><strong>[sarcasm]</strong>How incredibly painful and hurtful<strong>[/sarcasm]</strong></p>
<p>It kind of reminds me of women ranting about dating actions, especially ones they never undertake. Such as what we&#8217;ve all heard from our female friends.</p>
<p>Woman 1: &#8220;What an asshole, i gave my number to this guy and he waited 3 days to call me!&#8221;<br />
Woman 2: &#8220;What an idiot, I gave him my number, and he called me the next day! what a dork, don&#8217;t men have any sense and learn to wait!?!&#8221;.<br />
Woman 3: &#8220;Sure I gave him my number, but why did he call me, doesn&#8217;t he know you don&#8217;t call women like that&#8221;<br />
Woman 4: &#8220;What a jerk, I gave him my number and the bastard won&#8217;t call! MEN! All they do is lead you on!&#8221;</p>
<p>You know, these examples are not only real, but what makes them funny is often you&#8217;ll hear them from the same woman in different situations. Pointing to how women can easily miss how the confuse the bejesus out of men about what is &#8220;proper&#8221;.</p>
<p>Which is kind of funny, since these same women have never ever in their life had to ask a man out or do the phone number getting, so it&#8217;s kind of hypocritical of them to be the ones criticizing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same with these complaints on cat-calling. Ok, so these catcaller guys are sleazy, uncalibrated and socially-retarded&#8230; So?</p>
<p>They&#8217;re at least doing something, unlike the Washington-Post writer who hasn&#8217;t had to start a conversation with a man in her entire life. And goes around giving people the middle-finger. It&#8217;s easy to be the one ranting about &#8220;un-movie like approaches&#8221; when you&#8217;re the lazy side of the process.</p>
<p><strong>Fact:</strong> Being sleazy about the way you approach women is well, sleazy, no doubt about that, in fact it&#8217;s lame<br />
<strong>Fact:</strong> Ranting and victimizing about it when you&#8217;re the one who has it easy, makes you sleazier than the actual sleaze.</p>
<p><strong>Question to heterosexual feminazi?</strong> Would you rather than no man <em>ever again</em> approached you, asked you out or complimented you, nor noticed your looks? If it meant an end to all &#8220;bad approaches&#8221;? &#8212;&gt; In other words: Would you trade never ever ever again being approached or asked out or complimented if it meant a stop to all bad ones?</p>
<p>Now, obviously, I&#8217;m bringing it to an extreme. But the truth is, that everything has it&#8217;s consequences and side-effects. If you&#8217;re being the passive side, you need to accept the side-effects it brings. If you like being the approached one, then you have to know there will be approaches you don&#8217;t like either. If you ever like being perceived as an attractive person, accept that not all attention to your image will be of the type you like or intend.</p>
<p><strong>Simple Test: </strong>Jot down the number of times you approached a man you liked. Now jot down the number of times you waited for a guy you like to approach you.</p>
<p>Jot down the number of times you&#8217;ve asked a guy out, and jot down the number of times  you waited for a guy to ask you out,</p>
<p>Now, jot down the number of times you initiated a first kiss, and jot down the number of times the man did.</p>
<p>If these numbers are far from being 50-50 (equality, yo!),  and unequal in the direction of you being the passive one, that is (IMHO) a very subtle sign of hypocrisy. You want to have your cake and be able to eat it too. &#8220;I want every single man to act in the exact manner in which I imagine a perfect man would act.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you want your approaches to always be of the perfect manner, start approaching. You are the only person who&#8217;s actions you can control. Only you know your preferences and taste. If you want all your experiences with men to be like you want them, then start initiating them.</p>
<p>My opinion is that&#8230; if every single woman on the planet decided to make use of equality within the dating field, and approach and initiate kissing and potentially sex as often as she wanted to&#8230; Virtually 95% of &#8220;unwanted attention&#8221; from men would disappear&#8230; as men wouldn&#8217;t need to play Russian roulette&#8230; and hence, so would disappear the sleazebags.</p>
<p><strong>Some hilarious quotes from the original article<br />
</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>8 a.m. in Mount Pleasant. Last night’s dress and heels—risky—but I need to pop home and think early hour + short distance = no danger. Wrong. A few guys who are in an apartment above street level have a great time yelling out, “Ooh! How are you? Good morning! So beautiful! Damn! Look at her! Hello?! Hey, sexy,” and whatever else; goes on for at least half that block. I give them the finger.</p>
<p>Ten minutes later, walking back, having changed into tank and jeans. The upstairs guys are gone, but a guy in a car I walk by while crossing the street hangs out of it at me and says: “Good morning! Damn!”</p></blockquote>
<p>Because saying good-morning is now considered harassment&#8230;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a problem with that ego-centric approach of &#8220;He was so sleazy the way he said &#8220;good morning damn&#8221;". Not all women are like you. The perfect approach for you, is another woman&#8217;s &#8220;approach from hell&#8221;. Your gross compliment is another woman&#8217;s &#8220;attention from heaven&#8221; and vice-versa of course. The perfect approach for you, is another woman&#8217;s &#8220;lame, dorky&#8221; approach.</p>
<p><strong>Source:</strong> <a href="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=1855">WashingtonPost article </a></p>
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